Socrates Argument In Favour Of The Covenant For Hobbes
not necessary for a covenant that would restrict the opinions of people, since people only reason in terms of morals, and moral tend to be the values of the individuals of society. Hobbes believes that the only way to ensure order in society is for the covenant to be established, and only through the covenant can there be order. The covenant for Hobbes is justice and order, since it was a transfer of rights that ended the constant war between individuals, by having them transfer some of their rights in return for security of one’s life. The transfer of rights included things like having a power dictate the laws, and the individual has no say in this, and cannot question it in any fashion. The covenant was established to reduce violence,
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Socrates believed that justice entailed things like freedom of speech, and this point was illustrated in the Apology. The first sentence in this, was mentioning the right he had to speak to defend himself. As unjust as the Athenians were, who imprisoned him for what they called corrupting the youth, with the teaching of his ideas that were contrary to Athenian tradition, he maintained order. In Crito, Socrates was given the opportunity to escape prison, and he decided to remain and embraced getting executed as well. Socrates stated, “You must either persuade it or obey its orders, and endure in silence whatever it instructs you to endure” (51). This statement shows that the order must be kept, and Socrates kept the order, when he decided not to run away. For Socrates, one can question the laws or at times break them if one feels that they are unjust. In doing that, one must still follow the order placed in society, and this again is a challenge to Hobbes by stating one can question laws and claim that they are unjust without ruining the order. King also allowed for unjust laws to be broken under the condition of maintaining order, “One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty” (410). Maintaining the order as King and Socrates had done also lead to actually causing for there to be change since, as King stated, “to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law” (410). Fighting against unjust laws does not just not jeopardize order as Hobbes implies, but actually need to be done in a system of order. Whereby order is maintained, so that through this order laws would be
Socrates believed that justice entailed things like freedom of speech, and this point was illustrated in the Apology. The first sentence in this, was mentioning the right he had to speak to defend himself. As unjust as the Athenians were, who imprisoned him for what they called corrupting the youth, with the teaching of his ideas that were contrary to Athenian tradition, he maintained order. In Crito, Socrates was given the opportunity to escape prison, and he decided to remain and embraced getting executed as well. Socrates stated, “You must either persuade it or obey its orders, and endure in silence whatever it instructs you to endure” (51). This statement shows that the order must be kept, and Socrates kept the order, when he decided not to run away. For Socrates, one can question the laws or at times break them if one feels that they are unjust. In doing that, one must still follow the order placed in society, and this again is a challenge to Hobbes by stating one can question laws and claim that they are unjust without ruining the order. King also allowed for unjust laws to be broken under the condition of maintaining order, “One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty” (410). Maintaining the order as King and Socrates had done also lead to actually causing for there to be change since, as King stated, “to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law” (410). Fighting against unjust laws does not just not jeopardize order as Hobbes implies, but actually need to be done in a system of order. Whereby order is maintained, so that through this order laws would be